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Jet Collins
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Posted - 2006.03.29 18:36:00 -
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I think the minmatar recon ships are fine. We get the 25% bonuse to painters for having Cruser lvl 5 plus a webbing bonuse which will help your accuracy a S**T load aswell. Anouther bonuse to painter I think would lose affectiveness.
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Jet Collins
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Posted - 2006.03.30 13:48:00 -
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 Originally by: DeadRow
well.. afaik anit recons suppose to used in a gang? in which case you wont need to deal dmg because if ur webbingat 40km ull be help the gang pwn the target.
Yes I think this is very true. I may regret saying this but wouldn't you think a huginn would be great teamed up with a sniping gate camper. It has a targeting range of 120km standard so you can paint stuff really far away with great skill... No more shuttles getting buy plus if anyting desides to come at you it can web them before they even get close...
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Jet Collins
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Posted - 2006.03.31 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
Originally by: Ithildin
3x180 II
1xCloak
4xHypnos Multispec ECM
1xWebber (Bonus rocks and much needed)
1xWarp Scrambler
1600mm Plate
Medium Armor Rep II
2xUtility/Enhanments (WCS for my weak ass)
4xMedium Tech II drones or ECM
Well, very bad setup for a 110 mio isk Ship, what do you plan to kill? Lonly haulers? Every BS can tank you for a long long time, their drones will probably kill you before you got through their shields o.O.
And why is a webbing range bonus good on a ship you use at 4km? Together with a warp scrambler? Also you have a big exlplosive gap in your armor...
What you try to use here is a weaker pilgrim setup...
Would have to agree. The only way you could survive is if you jam the one ship your attacking and mamage to kill or jam all the drones before they kill you. EXP resistance is way to low on armor.
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Jet Collins
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Posted - 2006.04.04 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
1xWebber (Bonus rocks and much needed)
180 II's with no drones (EMP) - 96 DPS
180 II's with Medium Tech II (Minmatar/EMP) - 156 DPS
Stabber with 180 II's ect = 189 DPS (to compare)
Just a couple question on the above things I have quoted. if i did it right.
You say webber bonuse is Much needed? Why is that if you are engaging your target up close? You have a cloak so wouldn't you just approch it until our in your desired close range? And in that case you wouldn't be useing any of the ships bonses besides the Cloak :(.
Now with your ammo and drones I just want to be clear. In the Guns your useing EMP Ammo doign EMP and EM damage? And the Drones are EXP? because I don't think thier is a drone that does all the damge types that EMP ammo does?(Maybe I'm missing something)
And at the top of your statment you say why this ship maybe better than a Vagabon, than at the bottom you give the Stabber DPS. So I guess I missed why this ship is better than a Vagabone because I know a vaga can tank a heck of a lot better and can do a lot more damage than a stabber.
Now I understand your case is stong for using the 4 ECM's but when stating a case please be detailed and accurate in your statment, otherwise it is not that strong.
*Jet some times miss reads things and doesn't understand the message your trying to get accross. So sorry if I'm slow..... (I think just got a new sig)
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Jet Collins
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Posted - 2006.04.05 12:49:00 -
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Thanks for the quick responce of my questions Famine Aligher'ri. Just to be clear about the webbers I was not saying you do not need a webber for close range(I know how important a webber is) I was stating that it would apprear that you do need the bonuse that that ships gets for the webber since you are close range. From what I can tell a normal 10km webber with no ship bonuse would be just fine for your set up.
So I guess I'm just pointing out that you use none of the ship bonuses except the Cloak. Which is fine thier are many people using many ships that don't incorporate its bonuses.
Attually as a side note can you tell me on average how long it takes you to take out a cruiser, with that set up?
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